His main argument is that "kids need to think more about the future, not just that college is their only chance for a successful life and a good career." He supports his argument by stating that people are leaving college with more debt than their careers can cover. For starters, he makes this argument by talking about how lawyers come out of law school with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt but only make $65,000 in annual salary and that's even if they manage to get the job. In any case, Theils uses statistics to support his claim, which can have a great impact on the audience because using logos and providing people with credible information will influence them to believe you because they have concrete evidence. It also brings to light the conflict that in today's world there are thousands of graduate students who don't have a high-paying job, so they are stuck with college debt to get this magical degree that can't even get them a high-paying job. after college. Theil's partner in the debate is Charles Murray, Murray's main point was that fundamentally colleges are getting it wrong, he says we need to be able to tell employers we know and what skills we can offer, not where we learned from and how looking brought you. Murray confirms it